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Jordan Peterson - IQ and The Job Market

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Jordan B. Peterson discusses the role of cognitive ability and IQ in predicting career success and the challenges faced by lower-IQ individuals.

original source: youtu.be/D7Kn5p7TP_Y?t=1h29m53s Psychology Professor Dr. Jordan B. Peterson explains why IQ is a good predictor of success in the job market. The more complex the occupation, the higher the requirement of cognitive abilities. By ignoring this reality we do a big disservice to those who don't have the requirements even for simple jobs and get left behind. Both the conservative response 'They should work harder!' or the liberal view 'Everyone has the same potential!' are wrong and are ignoring the hard facts of intelligence. Dr. Peterson's new book is available for pre-order: 12 Rules for Life: An Antidote to Chaos: amzn.to/2yvJf9L If you want to support Dr. Peterson, here is his Patreon: patreon.com/jordanbpeterson Check out Jordan Peterson's Self Authoring Program, a powerful tool to sort yourself out: bit.ly/selfAuth (Official affiliate link for Bite-sized Philosophy)

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What people say. Recommended for its discussion on how cognitive differences affect employment and economic outcomes in modern society.

carsongrossin Hacker News • Recommends

On “Why manufacturing jobs aren't coming back to the U.S”

I agree entirely with you on the urgency of figuring out productive jobs for people with IQs on the left side of the bell curve. Jordan Peterson has a very good video on this1. I would couple this with a concern that we end (or, dare we dream, reverse) the dysgenic social policies we currently have in place (IQ is 50-80% heritable). In the short run, we need to work to move the production chain back to the united states, and that will generate some manufacturing jobs. I suspect more than the corporate-interest controlled media will say, but it almost doesn't matter if we are playing the long game for our kids. 1 - link to this video
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collywin Hacker News • Recommends

On “Gig-Economy Workers Are the Modern Proletariat”

There is an interesting clip from Jordan Peterson on IQ and jobs. Sure intelligent people want something meaningful from their jobs, but at the lower ends people are probably happier with something less challenging. link to this video Personally I wouldn't mind cycling around all day and staying fit, but keeping software running pays a fair bit better.
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carsongrossin Hacker News • Mentions

On “America is regressing into a developing nation for most people”

Yep. Jordan Peterson has discussed how important IQ is in the modern economy and how both the left and the right are in denial about it. While the left thinks anyone can be anything, the right thinks lazy people just need to work harder. Both are wrong. link to this video Difficult problem.
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pcnonpcin Hacker News • Mentions

On “China Is Engineering Genius Babies (2013)”

To flesh out a large range of implications will take at least an effort worthy of a PhD dissertation. With successful embryo selection, at least we can keep up with the increasingly higher minimum IQ needed to function well in advanced society and avoid a large underclass of unemployable people. Jordan Peterson - IQ and The Job Market link to this video
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pcnonpcin Hacker News • Mentions

On “First Human Embryos Edited in U.S”

…he newborns? Also, what can you do? You cannot put regulations on China or other countries. On this issue, they will not agree on international agreement either. And there will be rich people who fly to other countries to have the procedures done. This will cause even more inequality than allowing it domestically. Jordan Peterson IQ and Job Market link to this video…
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quantumofmalicein Hacker News • Mentions

On “Unstacking the deck”

…fact, this is a natural phenomena. So, what? Just let the people who lose the genetic lottery rot? No. Instead, we might want to focus on having a more balanced economy where, rather than everyone striving to become part of the elite, a working class person can have a perfectly reasonable life. Jordan Peterson discusses this problem in this video: link to this video Secondly, it is not immoral for parents to make large investments in their own children's lives. This behavior is no doubt somewhat driven by genetics (nearly everything appears to be at least 40% genetic) but it is also a learned behavior. Government programs that replace parental investment have been catastrophic for minorities in the uni…
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xiphiasin Hacker News • Mentions

On “Stanford CS9: Problem-Solving for the CS Technical Interview”

Google interviews are mostly IQ tests. There are a basic set of primitives (algorithms and data structures) and you have to think fast and combine them. Google never cared about experience and knowledge as much as intelligence (the ability to learn fast): link to this video
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chootin Hacker News • Mentions

On “Gig-Economy Workers Are the Modern Proletariat”

The reason they give is based on self evaluation. People are particularly bad at self evaluation. Keep in mind, most people don't know what their IQ is. And most don't consider themselves to posses less intelligence as they don't know what more intelligence feels like. See this video for relationship between job expectation and IQ: link to this video
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oreallyin Hacker News • Mentions

On “Misidentifying talent”

Well hiring for software engineers should involve fields outside their own while de-emphasizing leetcode. For example, there are psychometric studies comparing personality and job success. Some of JP's lectures talk on this point quite a bit. Workplace Performance, Politics & Faulty Myers-Briggs: link IQ and The Job Market: link to this video
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