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Joe Rogan Experience #1439 - Michael Osterholm

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Immunity and infectionClinical medicineInfectious diseasePublic health and policyEpidemiology and statistics

Epidemiologist Michael Osterholm discusses the transmission, risks, and public health challenges of the early COVID-19 pandemic.

Michael Osterholm is an internationally recognized expert in infectious disease epidemiology. He is Regents Professor, McKnight Presidential Endowed Chair in Public Health, the director of the Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy (CIDRAP), Distinguished Teaching Professor in the Division of Environmental Health Sciences, School of Public Health, a professor in the Technological Leadership Institute, College of Science and Engineering, and an adjunct professor in the Medical School, all at the University of Minnesota. Look for his book "Deadliest Enemy: Our War Against Deadly Germs" for more info. amzn.to/2IAzeLe cidrap.umn.edu/

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What people say. Highly recommended during the early pandemic for its clear, expert explanation of COVID-19 transmission, social distancing, and public health risks.

spectramaxin Hacker News • Recommends

On “Don't Touch Ya Face”

…imagine the negligible weight of a 0.1um particle compared to the fluid mechanical forces from circulating air). - N95 masks (contrarily to the popular myth) are the most effective means of stopping the spread. Shortage of masks for hospital workers is an orthogonal issue. I urge everyone of you to watch this interview and to be more informed. 1 link to this video…
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cletusin Hacker News • Recommends

On “Why some governments appear not to be acting on the Covid-19 threat”

So I encourage people to go watch the Joe Rogan podcast on this 1. A few snippets: - He describes this as more like a "winter" than a "blizzard" in that this is going to go on for months; - No one really knows what the mortality rate is but it's become clear there are certain risk factors eg the fatality rate among people over 70 in China is about 3x for men than women but men are much more likely to smoke than women in China in this age group. - Keeping schools closed is a mixed bag. For one, kids below 9 or so don't seem to get sick or die. In China only 2% of cases are under age 19. There are other diseases like this (eg Hepatitis-A). If you keep kids home, some people will lose their j…
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ApolloRisingin Hacker News • Recommends

On “Ask HN: Where to get legitimate information about the coronavirus?”

This was very helpful to me: link to this video Michael Osterholm is an internationally recognized expert in infectious disease epidemiology. He is Regents Professor, McKnight Presidential Endowed Chair in Public Health, the director of the Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy (CIDRAP), Distinguished Teaching Professor in the Division of Environmental Health Sciences, School of Public Health, a professor in the Technological Leadership Institute, College of Science and Engineering, and an adjunct professor in the Medical School, all at the University of Minnesota. Look for his book "Deadliest Enemy: Our War Against Deadly Germs" for more info. link link
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user17561in Skeptics Stack Exchange • Mentions

A popular YouTube personality, link to this video, a retired nurse teacher, makes a claim link to this video around the 4m27s mark: Now let's be quite clear. No-one is saying SARS-CoV-2 is a synthesized virus. Now, no-one will admit this... but you and me, I think, know... that governments around the world have made viruses for the purposes of biological warfare ... But what is quite possible to do, it's quite possible to take a virus which is quite deadly, like Middle East Respiratory Syndrome coronavirus (the MERS virus) or virus which is quite deadly like Ebola, and take the killing part of that virus out and mix that with the part of virus that makes other viruses transmissible, such as the common co…
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simplyinfinityin Hacker News • Mentions

On “Denmarks shuts down all schools, daycare facilities, universities, highschools”

According to cdc expert, kids up to 19 mostly don't get sick, or if they do, it's not as bad as in adults over 40 link to this video
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Consultant32452in Hacker News • Mentions

On “Denmarks shuts down all schools, daycare facilities, universities, highschools”

Yes. The Joe Rogan experience episode with Michael Osterholm talked about this. Basically all of this social distancing is about slowing the spread so as to not overwhelm the healthcare system, not stop it. They can calculate how much you impact the speed of spread if you limit gatherings to 1k, 100, 50, 5, etc. From there it's a somewhat subjective risk assessment of what you want to recommend, bearing in mind that destroying the economy results in deaths from downstream effects. link to this video
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sb057in Hacker News • Mentions

On “Don't Touch Ya Face”

Michael Osterholm of the University of Minnesota said as much on JRE yesterday.1 Obviously touching your face won't decrease your chances of catching coronavirus (or any other disease), but the reason this strain is wrecking so much havoc is because of how transmissible it is, especially through simple breathing. The implication being, if you get it on your hands, you've almost certainly already breathed it in. 1 link to this video
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dba7dbain Hacker News • Mentions

On “South Korea's drive-through testing for coronavirus”

I would love to see you link/source. I have watched link to this video with Michael Osterholm as guest. This is not a flat out lie.
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nate_meurerin Hacker News • Mentions

On “Open letter from Italy to the international scientific community”

No, not even close. Those wet markets are a fucking nightmare. There are truly optimized for pulling new diseases into the human population. Thousands of animals, hundreds of different species, many known to be reservoirs of potential human pathogens, crammed together in close proximity with each other and with humans who eat them. In his interview with Joe Rogan, Michael Osterholm called it "the perfect experiment that no university would let you do": link to this video Their discussion of wet markets starts at around 1:01:00.
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jMylesin Hacker News • Mentions

On “Shelter in place for Bay Area counties”

> these steps are informed, authoritarian, and right-headed I have to say, I think this is a very insensitive thing to say. Being in a position of privilege to likely avoid the consequences of authoritarian tendencies is wonderful, but most people don't enjoy such a position. Authoritarian tactics are per se wrong. > And with all due respect, what relevance does Vitamin D have to do with the price of tea in China? I hope you're not suggesting this thing will magically go away if we just get our vitamin supplementation right. I didn't suggest that, no. But it is one of the interventions that makes sense. And generally, obviously, fresh air and exercise are important for overall health and wel…
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jacobedawsonin Hacker News • Mentions

On “State projections for Covid-19”

There is a very succinct explanation by Michael Osterholm 12 where he says that the virus is spread both by droplets & aerosols, and that sharing the same air with another person is the primary vector (that isn't intended to sound as alarmist as it probably does). From what I understand the best prevention is to reduce face-to-face contact with other people where possible, but an N95 mask would definitely help prevent contraction in public spaces. Of course, these measures seem extreme since ~80% of people will barely notice they are infected / have mild symptoms, but it's all about peak-load reduction. 1: link 2: link to this video
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jcimsin Hacker News • Mentions

On “Pangolins found to carry viruses related to Covid-19”

Michael Osterholm called this out during his episode on the Joe Rogan podcast back on 3/10, presumably from prior research - link to this video
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robocatin Hacker News • Mentions

On “Guidance against wearing masks for the coronavirus is wrong – cover your face”

That is pretty much correct from what I’ve read. But take care to differentiate between surgical masks (only help protect others), and N95 protects both ways (protects the wearer from others, protects others from the wearer). Go to 43:20 on link to this video and Michael Osterholm (a very clued up epidemiologist) says: 1. Surgical masks help prevent transmission 2. N95 masks help prevent catching it Note also in that same section he says washing hands is probably a waste of time - because transmission vector is respiratory (duhhh). I think too much of our media and fear is concentrating hard on washing hands, with little science behind it for respitory viruses.
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aaron695in Hacker News • Mentions

On “Hygiene Theater Is a Waste of Time”

Michael Osterholm talks a bit on this in March and how hand washing is somewhat pointless - link to this video You can talk about hand washing stopping other diseases etc but by ignoring how C19 is about breathing why would you expect people to suddenly believe masks matter. Even pushing outdoor dining and activities, if we are taught it's contact, once again people won't respond.
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jmyeetin Hacker News • Mentions

On “Observations from our Joe Rogan Experience experience”

…t: Tate dated JP's daughter a couple of years ago). The third is transgender people. Trans people broke a lot of people in a way that's reminiscent of 1990s era homophobia. Bill Maher is another example of this. So a big part of Joe's popularity isn't just a "dumb guy asking questions", it's that he pushes very normative and popular opinions. 1: link to this video 2: link…
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